Today I start another new series, called Interesting Expats, in which I speak to expats from all sorts of backgrounds, countries, ages, eras….you name it, I’ll have it. Of course, in their own way, ALL expats are interesting: by definition just the fact that we have taken ourselves off to another country to live makes us interesting in my eyes. But there are a lot of “common or garden” expats out there, and then there are those who are a little different for one reason or another. In this series I will first explain why I think they are interesting – and then hand you over to the subject themselves to tell you more….
Why I think she is interesting: I first heard about Olivia when I saw her name pop up on some of the expat forums I frequent on Facebook. We often discuss our backgrounds and what life is like for those of us who have been Third Culture Kids. Also known as TCK’s, these are children or adults who spent at least part of their childhood travelling between different countries and cultures. Much study and research is being done into TCK’s at the moment – mostly to understand why we seem to still be affected by our experiences even years after we have settled down. But Olivia had taken things one step further – she had realised how hard it can be for young TCK’s to find love and that the answer might be to help them find other TCK’s. So she has set up a dating site – TCK Dating. In the meantime, she has also trained as an expat coach and is always on the look out for what she calls “strong, determined expat’s, open to change but who have maybe lost their way a little”, to work with. If this is you, or you know someone who fits this mould, please do contact Olivia via her coaching website.
So these are the reasons I think Olivia is interesting – now it’s over to her:
Please tell me a bit about yourself and your background, including where you’ve lived and for how long. And what you are doing now?
Sure! My parents are French and Belgian and I was born in Tokyo. I lived there for 4 years, then moved to Dusseldorf for 2 years, Johannesburg for 6, Vienna for 3, and finally Hamburg for 2 years. I then went to university in Boston for a 4-year Bachelors degree. During that time, I spent 6 months in Auckland, New Zealand, and 6 months in London, UK.
I also coach individuals on reaching their dream life. Often we focus on how we should live or what we should be doing; using coaching questions I help move them to what they really want to be doing (no shoulds!). What does their ideal life look like (without thinking about what family, society, colleagues, friends think)? Where would they be living? What would they be doing? Once we have a very clear picture of their optimal situation, we help create a detailed and strategical action plan to achieve that life. There’s a misunderstanding out there that life coaching means giving advice, it’s not about that at all. It’s about asking questions using different models that allows the client to have insightful breakthroughs and find their own optimal solutions to achieve their dream goals. Sometimes it’s also about taking aways those limiting beliefs that tell you: I could never do that. I don’t have the time. I’m not good enough. I don’t have the money for it. I could never start that. I’m not qualified enough for that role.
Sure, there are many definitions out there for a TCK, but the one I’ve come across most often is a person who has spent some time during their formative years outside their home or passport country. An ATCK is simply that type of person as an adult.
Well, I had struggled myself to find someone romantically who could keep me on my toes. I was always restless and didn’t feel I met enough people who understood me. I also used to get bored with guys very easily! I wanted to not have to hide any of who I was (which is a large mixture of customs). I finally met someone a year and a half ago who does just that. He makes me laugh, is not intimidated by my multicultural background, and fully understands and appreciates why I am the way I am today. I wanted to create a platform where TCKs could meet people who they’d feel comfortable with. It’s not to say that all TCKs will get along, let alone be romantically attracted to each other; however, it does allow for a much larger common ground. I’ve met so many TCKs since I’ve started this platform and I’ve realised how very often, I feel so incredibly comfortable from the get go. We have so many things to talk about and we can go off on so many tangents! We also have had to deal with a lot of the same sorts of feelings: restlessness, goodbyes, commitment to relationships or cities, and lack of what most call ‘home’.
You know what, they don’t. We don’t even need dating sites. But you know what? We want one. I wanted one at the time. I wanted one additional option to meet more people. And turns out, that other TCKs out there want one too. What’s not to like about one extra option of meeting the love of your life? I loved meeting new people, and I love meeting people who can relate to my story. People who I don’t have to explain things to. People who won’t be shocked by customs that are not their own. Of course, you’ll still go out, hang out with your friends, meet guys at a bar, at university. But what if you could increase your chances of meeting someone? Wouldn’t you take it?
Great question! I think that in the end it’s not necessarily about whether that person is a TCK or not. However, what I do think is it means that if you’ve been struggling to meet people who understand you, it can feel amazing to have people who truly can because they’ve been through similar experiences growing up.
I’ve met someone who’s not a TCK and we’re madly in love. He’s someone who was never intimidated by the many countries I’d lived in, the 3 languages I spoke, the experiences I’d already had at 25. He is complex, intricate, interesting, different, incredibly intuitive, and very open-minded. I think that those traits helped so much. It allowed me to simply be ‘me’ and no one else. He is sometimes surprised by some of the things that I say or some of the things that I’ve done, but he doesn’t judge it in any way.
I never had the chance to meet another TCK when I was single. I’d only ever meet single expats or single locals in the cities I’ve lived in. And it’s only when I started TCK Dating that I met TCKs, and I was shocked about how quickly we bonded. Straight away, I felt we’d known each other for years. And that was a very special experience for me. It was what I realised most people must feel when they meet another Australian person if they’re Australian. It’s that connection that’s almost unexplainable.
I’d say that it’s all about getting out of your comfort zone and really being proactive about meeting new people. It’s funny that for careers, we will do everything: work on a CV for days, send it to friends for editing, write 20 applications, and network in alumni events. Then once we have the job, we’ll spend 9 hours a day at work, spend time with work colleagues, train for our next qualification.
Then, when you ask someone what they do for their love life, they say ‘nothing’. It will just happen. On its own. I don’t have to do anything. I’ll just meet them. I just don’t believe that. I think we have to be just as proactive in our love life as our career. If that means, joining a club that inspires you to meet new people. Joining a touch rugby team to play on the weekends to find other people who share your interests. Attending networking events on your own to meet a new network. Joining dating sites, and actually sending out messages and being proactive on it. This whole waiting game in our love lives is funny. We would never ‘wait’ for a job. As if it would just come to you. That would be seen as ridiculous. We would research jobs, send applications, go to career fairs, speak to friends or old colleagues about opportunities, get out there, and be open and ready to make opportunities happen for us. I believe we should do the same for love.
And what about parents of TCK’s, especially those who are teens or young adults? Is there anything they need to be aware of? Do you have any recommendations for literature or website links they could read?
I think that the book Third Culture Kids: The Experience of Growing Up Among Worlds written by David Pollock and Ruth van Reken is an amazing book that really allows us to further understand what it means to be a TCK or CCK (Cross Cultural Kid). The book can be a valuable tool for parents to have a deeper understanding of what their kids will be going through during different stages.
I would say that having that balance between really supporting TCKs in whatever they choose to do and yet also allow their children to be truly independent and learn who they are on their own. We have enough pressure to do certain things in life; it’s lovely when you have a family who supports you no matter what you choose to get excited about. That’s when we can be truly happen, when we feel fulfilled and engaged in our work or studies.
My parents did a great job in showing that our family would never break and was a solid structure in an ever-changing environment. I think that without that feeling of strong comfort and home within our family it might have been harder for us (my siblings and I) to cope with so many changes and goodbyes. Having this strong family structured allowed us to appreciate the moves, the experience of seeing new cities, experiencing different cultures and meeting new students everywhere we went.
Thanks to Olivia for answering my questions and help get this series started. Reading back through this is struck me that I have always enjoyed interacting with Olivia and now I know why – we are both TCK’s so have that in common immediately even if our nationalities, ages and backgrounds are very different.
If you are an “interesting expat” or know anyone who you think would be an interesting person to feature in this series please let me know!